Mr. Jenner. What is her married name?
Mr. McKenzie. I do not recall her married name, but I do believe that she and her then husband, and I presume her present husband, the doctor that she married, were engaged in medical research at some hospital in Philadelphia or Baltimore, looking to the cause and a cure of a children's ailment of a very serious nature, and I believe it was connected with some blood type ailment.
Mr. Jenner. Leukemia?
Mr. McKenzie. No, it was not leukemia. There was an article on Wynne Sharples in one of the magazine supplements of either the Dallas Times-Herald or the Dallas Morning News, within the past five years.
George De Mohrenschildt has subsequently remarried, and some time within the past two years there was an article on George De Mohrenschildt in one of the Dallas daily newspapers, telling of a trip that he and his new bride were going to take through Mexico and Central America walking. In other words, they were going to walk from Dallas or the Mexican-United States border through Mexico and through Central America. It is my understanding that such a trip was taken, and that George De Mohrenschildt has since that time returned to Dallas, Tex. In fact, I have seen him in Dallas, Tex., within the past 7 months.
I do not know of any relationship between George De Mohrenschildt and Marina Oswald or Lee Harvey Oswald, nor have I ever heard of any.
Mr. Jenner. Would you describe George De Mohrenschildt physically, his physical appearance, the one you have in mind?
Mr. McKenzie. The man that I know is a large man, approximately six foot one to three inches. He would probably weigh 205 to maybe 215 pounds.
Mr. Jenner. Age?
Mr. McKenzie. He appears to be between 45 and 50 or 51 or 52. He has got a dark complexion, and I would say a typically foreign expression or foreign look to him, from the standpoint of being either a Russian or of the Slavic races.
Mr. Jenner. Have you ever spoken with him, to give us your impression of whether he has a foreign inflection in his speech?
Mr. McKenzie. He does have a foreign inflection in his speech, and I have heard, I do not know this to be true, but I have heard that Mr. De Mohrenschildt has quite a way with the ladies.
Mr. Jenner. All right, thanks.
Mr. Dulles. Thank you very much.
Mr. Jenner. Mr. Oswald, I have asked you about the Nixon and General Walker incidents. Did you at any time prior to November 23, 1963, have drawn to your attention any incident of any kind or character of action on the part of your brother Lee similar to those which have been raised as to General Walker and Richard Nixon?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir, I have not.
Mr. Jenner. You have seen pictures of, and you have heard about, the rifle which was allegedly employed by the assassin of President Kennedy in that assassination?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner. And you have seen pictures of it?
Mr. Oswald. That is correct, sir.
Mr. Jenner. Did you at any time prior to November 23, 1963, ever see the rifle which is alleged to have been employed in the assassination of President Kennedy?
Mr. Oswald. I have not.
Mr. Jenner. Did you ever see at your home or any place a rifle of that character in the possession of your brother, Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir, I have not.
Mr. Jenner. Did you ever see any rifle of that character in or about any premises that he might or was occupying or that Marina was occupying?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir, I have not. I might further state I never knew him to own but one firearm in his entire life, and that was a .22 caliber rifle that he purchased from New Orleans, La., and on my visit to New Orleans, La., in 1955 on my discharge from the service, I purchased this from Lee for a total of $10. He had given approximately $16 for the rifle. It would not fire. And I gave him $10 for it, and took it back to Fort Worth and worked on it and put it into working condition.
Mr. Jenner. Did you have any discussion, did any discussion take place between you and Lee, or in your presence, other than that which you have testified heretofore up to this moment, of his use of a firearm, be it a pistol or a rifle, during the period from June 1962 to, and including, the 23d of November, 1963?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir, I had not.
Mr. Jenner. Nothing of that character occurred between you or in your presence and his presence during all of that period of time?
Mr. Oswald. That is correct, sir. I might say what they were saying at my home in Fort Worth, Tex., on Davenport Street during the first week, Lee and I were discussing hunting and so forth out at my in-laws' farm, I did produce at that time all weapons in my possession in front of Marina and Lee. They made Marina Oswald nervous, and shortly after looking at my weapons, I returned them to their proper place, and that was the only time that I have ever seen him handle a weapon from the time that he returned from Russia in 1962 until the reports of present-day activities along that line that he handled a weapon.
Mr. Jenner. Just to nail down this subject, I take it then that at no time from the time of his return in June of 1962 to the United States to and including November 23, 1962, did you ever see him in the possession of a firearm of any kind or character?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I did not. If I may, sir, referring to the hunting trip that we did take at the farm in June of 1962——
Mr. Jenner. Other than that to which you have already testified?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir, that is correct, at no time.
Mr. Jenner. And you had that in mind when you answered my question in the negative?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner. I was excluding your prior testimony.
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir. Thank you.
Mr. Jenner. Apart from newspaper photographs, have you ever to your knowledge seen Jack Ruby on television?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir, I have not.
Mr. Jenner. Or a person said to be Jack Ruby?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir, I have not.
Mr. McKenzie. Use his full name.
Mr. Jenner. Jack Rubenstein.
Mr. Oswald. No, sir, I have not.
Mr. Jenner. Have you ever been in any establishment allegedly operated by him or in which he has an interest, to your knowledge?
Mr. Oswald. Would you mind, sir, giving me the names of those establishments?
Mr. Jenner. I will do that from other papers later on, but to your present knowledge, without refreshing or stimulating your recollection, could you give me an answer?
Mr. Oswald. I have not, sir.
Mr. McKenzie. Now would you go on and ask him, or would you prefer to——
Mr. Jenner. Would you mind waiting? I am just taking care of Representative Ford's questions at the moment.
Your mother testified that an FBI agent had shown her a picture of some man on the evening of Saturday, November 23, 1963. She testified further that later, after your brother had been killed, she saw a picture of Jack Ruby or Jack Rubenstein alias Jack Ruby in the newspaper, and that she exclaimed in your presence that Ruby was the man whose picture had been shown to her on a Saturday night, November 23, 1963, by an agent of the FBI. Does that refresh your recollection?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir, that is correct.
Mr. Jenner. And did that take place?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir, it did.
Mr. Jenner. Would you please testify or tell us of where that took place, who was present and what the