Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I only recall this one occasion.
Mr. Jenner. State what was said, please, and by whom.
Mr. Oswald. This was said by Marina Oswald in June of 1962 in very broken English: "I never want to go to Russia again."
Mr. Jenner. Return to Russia?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner. And that was said in the presence of your brother Lee, your presence and your wife's presence?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I feel certain that all four of us were present.
Mr. Jenner. Did your brother say anything on that occasion?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir.
Mr. Jenner. As to that subject matter?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir.
Mr. Jenner. This took place in your home? How long after they had returned from Russia did this conversation take place?
Mr. McKenzie. What was that question?
Mr. Oswald. I would say 1 or 2 weeks.
Mr. Jenner. One or two weeks after they had returned from Russia?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.
Mr. Dulles. That is when they were staying with you after their return?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner. At any time prior to November 23, 1962, were you aware or did any incident arise or conversation take place indicating any desire on your brother Lee's part to go to Cuba?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; it did not.
Mr. Jenner. Or to Mexico?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; it did not.
Mr. Jenner. Or any other country than the United States?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; there was not.
Mr. Dulles. Was there any particular reason why you did not have some contact with Lee during the period November, Thanksgiving 1962, and your departure for Arkansas in March of 1963?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; none that I was aware of. I did write him on two or three occasions asking him to advise me of his address in Dallas, Tex., so when I had an opportunity either on business or otherwise passing through where I could possibly stop and see him, if not Marina and the child.
His response to this was as it is stated in the letter of March 17, 1963, that generally he was moving and it was not settled and he would always retain the post office box in Dallas, Tex., where I might reach him through the mail and that I would not be able to see him or his family when I came through town.
Mr. Dulles. Did that surprise you?
Mr. Oswald. It did not at first, sir, because I realized he was not settled as to a stable job and to an apartment. However, it did concern me later, and I refer to my letter that I wrote him in March of 1963 which he replied to on March 17 or March 16, 1963.
Mr. Jenner. Which is Commission Exhibit 322.
Mr. Oswald. That I would like to have an address other than a post office box, and when again he did not furnish me this information, I did not respond to his letter of March 17, 1963. The last time I wrote him was in September 1963 when I returned to Texas and our moving into Denton, Tex., advising him of my new address, and still at that time requesting again an address where they were staying at in Dallas so that I might contact him, since again we were close together, approximately 30 miles away.
Mr. Jenner. And he did not respond to that?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; he never responded to that letter that I wrote him in September other than on the day that I visited him at Dallas County Jail or Dallas City Jail on November 23, 1963, he did say before I had an opportunity to say anything to him, "Robert, you now are living in Denton, aren't you?" And I said yes.
In other words, he had received my letter of September 1963.
Mr. Jenner. This was elicited by Mr. Dulles' question, his failure to advise you in due course eventually here as late as September 1963 of his location in Dallas aroused some suspicions, doubts or a question in your mind?
Mr. Oswald. It did to this extent, that I thought perhaps——
Mr. Jenner. Keep in mind all this history also, Mr. Oswald.
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner. That you testified about.
Mr. Oswald. That perhaps he was angry at us or did not want to have anything to do with us. However, it was also my thinking on this that this would be out of character for him because he normally would keep in contact with me and let me have his address and so forth, even though he had furnished a post office box at first and which I understood, but his failure to give me an address indicated——
Mr. Jenner. Despite your at least two requests?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner. Or three requests?
Mr. Oswald. Indicated to me that perhaps something of a different nature was going on that I was not aware of, whether he was having trouble with Marina and perhaps the baby, and they were not getting along and he did not want me to become aware of this situation; this would be my only speculation on that, sir.
Mr. Dulles. Did your wife have any contact with Marina over this period we are discussing from Thanksgiving of 1962 to November 1963?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; she did not.
Mr. Jenner. Did she ever indicate to you that she made any effort to effect a contact with Marina?
Mr. Oswald. Did my wife?
No, sir; she did not.
Mr. Jenner. In the light, Mr. Oswald, of the fact that your brother, as you testified, you thought looked up to you in his youth at least, in the light of his departure for Russia, in the light of the correspondence that you had with him in Russia about which you have testified, in the light of the conversations that you had with him upon his return, did not the fact that you did not hear from him for as long a period as from Thanksgiving Day of 1962 to well into the fall of 1963 raise any question in your mind beyond that which you have now testified about?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir.
Mr. Jenner. That it might be something other than possible marital difficulties?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir.
Of course, I refer to the postcard of January 10, 1963, and the letter of March 17, 1963, which I would state other than the fact that he did not advise me of his residence in Dallas, Tex.——
Mr. Jenner. Despite the fact that you requested it?
Mr. Oswald. Right, that the infrequency of the mail at this time was going back to prior to the time that he was in Russia, to the extent that he was not writing frequently then when he was in the service and so forth, and then again I thought that he was returning to this, because I was also not writing him as frequently as we had while he was in Russia. And it is my opinion, sir, that Lee felt that he had caused me enough difficulty, that he did not want to in any way, even though I had offered my assistance after his return from Russia, in any way that I possibly could, that he did not want to burden me in case he was in any financial difficulty or any other difficulty.
Mr. Jenner. All right, thank you.
I am going to attempt to cover in general terms, Mr. Chairman, Representative Ford's questions and see if I can shorten up the examination in that respect.
Mr. Dulles. Could I have just a word with you for just a moment.
(Short recess.)
Mr. Jenner. You are acquainted at least by hearsay at the moment, are you not, with respect to an alleged attack having been made by your brother upon General Walker?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I am.
Mr.