Mr. Redlich. And since Marina Oswald's return from Washington after having testified here, you say you have never discussed the Nixon incident with Marina Oswald in any way?
Mr. Martin. No. I probably would have had there been sufficient time. Of course, she left my home the following day after she got back from Washington.
Mr. Redlich. When you say you probably would have, in what way?
Mr. Martin. Well, since she didn't mention it to the Commission, I feel the Commission should know about it.
Mr. Dulles. Did you know at this time she had not mentioned it to the Commission?
Mr. Martin. I asked John Thorne.
Mr. Dulles. Oh, you asked John Thorne?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Redlich. What did John Thorne say?
Mr. Martin. Said she had not mentioned it.
Mr. Redlich. Did you ask John Thorne why she had not mentioned it?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Did John Thorne offer any information as to why she had not mentioned it?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Do you know whether John Thorne had urged her to mention it?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. John Thorne was aware of the Nixon incident prior to Marina Oswald's appearance before this Commission, was he not?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Redlich. Because you had apparently told him about that shortly after you learned about it in January.
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Redlich. Did you discuss the Nixon incident with Robert Oswald after Marina Oswald's appearance before this Commission in February?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. You had not?
Mr. Martin. I don't know if I discussed it with him prior to the Commission's testimony or not. I may or I may not have. I don't know. I don't know whether I mentioned it to him or not.
Mr. Redlich. Coming back to Commission Exhibit No. 325, the next item under London Daily Mirror, am I correct in assuming that this is, that this item refers to the rifle photo which you discussed earlier in your testimony tonight?
Mr. Martin. Yes, that is right.
Mr. Redlich. Do you have anything to add with regard to that rifle photo that you have not already told us?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Did you discuss with Marina Oswald at any time this rifle photo and the circumstances under which it was taken.
Mr. Martin. I asked her at one time why he wanted a photograph taken of that type, and she said she didn't know. He just wanted pictures taken that way.
Mr. Redlich. Did she tell you when this photograph was taken in relationship to any other incidents such as the General Walker incident or the Richard Nixon incident?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Did you know where the photograph was taken?
Mr. Martin. I don't know, I don't even know if it was in Oak Cliff or not. I have an idea that it was in Oak Cliff but I don't know whether I know that or whether I have read it.
Mr. Redlich. When you say Oak Cliff, some of us don't live in Dallas.
Mr. Martin. It is a suburb of Dallas, a section of Dallas.
Mr. Redlich. Are you referring to the area where the Neely Street house was located?
To refresh your recollection, Mr. Martin, the Oswalds lived in two places in Dallas. One was on Elsbeth Street and the other on Neely. Are they both in Oak Cliff?
Mr. Martin. Yes, Elsbeth Street is right around the corner from Neely Street, I believe they lived in an apartment on Elsbeth.
It was a group of apartments in one building, and on Neely Street, I think, that was similar to a duplex.
Mr. Redlich. And you are not certain as to where this photograph which was the subject of these negotiations was taken?
Mr. Martin. No, except that the Elsbeth address, I believe, was a brick residence, I mean a brick apartment, it is a dark building, and the Neely Street address is a white building.
I believe the photo shows a white building.
Mr. Redlich. On the basis of that you would conclude the photograph was taken at which address?
Mr. Martin. At the Neely Street address.
Mr. Redlich. At the Neely Street address. When you were negotiating with various publications for this photograph, didn't anyone ask you when and where it was taken?
Mr. Martin. Yes, I told them that it was while they were living in Oak Cliff. I didn't say where or when.
Mr. Redlich. No one asked you.
Mr. Martin. And they apparently weren't concerned with the where or when.
Mr. Redlich. Did they ask you anything about the publication which Lee Oswald had in his hand?
Mr. Martin. Yes, and I told them that it was either the Militant or the Worker. I was not sure which one. I am not even sure whether either one.
Mr. Redlich. Your copy of the photograph did not indicate clearly which one it was?
Mr. Martin. Correct.
Mr. Redlich. Do you now know which one it was?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Dulles. Are you sure it is one of the two?
Mr. Martin. No, I am not. I assume that it would be one of the two.
Mr. Redlich. For the record it is the Militant.
Mr. Dulles. It is?
Mr. Redlich. Is there anything about the circumstances of this photograph, including the rifle, the pistol, the time, the place, anything concerning this photograph that you have not told this Commission about which you have knowledge?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. The last item on Commission Exhibit No. 325 is This Week magazine, $1,000. Could you tell us about that. At the conclusion of this list I will ask if there is anything else. We are now at This Week magazine.
Mr. Martin. When Marina was here in Washington, she had the press conference, and at the end of the press conference she mentioned, she made a statement "Now I go to church." On the way to the CBS studios we passed a Russian Orthodox Church, and she remarked about it, that she would like to come back and go inside, see what it looked like. Someone in This Week magazine caught that statement, and wanted to write a short article on Marina going to church, and that is what that is.
Mr. Redlich. What happened? Could you tell us how this article got written?
Mr. Martin. It hasn't been written.
Mr. Redlich. Did the reporter accompany Mrs. Oswald to church?
Mr. Martin. Oh, no. Actually when the television interview was over, we came back and went to the church, but the church was locked and we didn't get in at all. Now this contact was made after we left Washington. This Week magazine contacted us after, not while we were still here.
Mr. Redlich. And what was the subject matter of this article specifically supposed to be?
Mr. Martin. The title of it was supposed to be "I go to church," and it would be an article written on Marina going to church.
Mr. Redlich. Mr. Martin, the total figure on the bottom of Commission Exhibit No. 325 is $132,350. This presumably does not include any future royalties, is that correct?
Mr. Martin. That is correct.
Mr.