Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Redlich. And this only encompasses about half of the entire story, is that right?
Mr. Martin. It is more than half, it is about 15 pages, I guess.
Mr. Redlich. Did she consult with you at all in the preparation of that story?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. And there is nothing on this tape other than the English translation of that Russian story?
Mr. Martin. That is true.
Mr. Dulles. Do we have that translation as well as the copy of the original?
Mr. Redlich. Yes, Mr. Chairman, we have the original in Russian and then it was translated by Mr. Gopadze, of the Secret Service.
Mr. Martin. Actually our translation is very poor. He was not able to translate properly into English a lot of the phrases.
Mr. Dulles. Who is "he," Illa? Isn't that Ilya, by the way?
Mr. Martin. I am not sure.
Mr. Dulles. That is generally the Russian, I don't know.
Mr. Rankin. That is right.
Mr. Martin. It might be.
Mr. Dulles. Yes.
Mr. Martin. But he is professor at SMU. He has a list of titles that long. He is very well thought of. I think he works for Sun Oil Company, and is a well-respected individual. His wife and his mother, I believe, teach Russian also. I think his mother taught Mrs. Paine a good deal of her Russian.
Mr. Redlich. Mr. Martin, I would like to show you Commission Exhibit No. 325 which was introduced earlier today. Mr. Leech, I believe you have a photostat of this. If you could hand it to me during the course of this questioning. I would appreciate it.
Mr. Leech. Yes.
Mr. Redlich. Thank you.
Could you tell the Commission what this document purports to state, and then I will ask you about individual items.
Mr. Martin. These are contracts that we have made both in writing and verbally for Marina Oswald's right, her story rights.
Mr. Redlich. And the first item appearing on Commission Exhibit No. 325 is a contract with Texitalia Films.
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Redlich. Would you describe the terms and conditions of that contract?
Mr. Martin. Texitalia Films is planning a 60-minute technicolor documentary to start. They will pay $75,000 for World-Wide movie and the TV rights.
Mr. Dulles. Excuse me, is this a documentary of Marina's life?
Mr. Martin. Yes. Any movie or television appearances Marina would be paid $7,500 plus expenses for each appearance. Then for each personal appearance, for instance, the film opens in St. Louis on such and such a date and they would like for her to be there to make a personal appearance for the showing, the opening of the film, she would receive $1,500 plus expenses for each public appearance of that nature.
Mr. Redlich. And this contract according to this exhibit was signed on February 11, 1964?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Leech. By her?
Mr. Martin. No, by me acting for her.
Mr. Redlich. By you acting on behalf of Mrs. Oswald?
Mr. Martin. Yes, in accordance with my contract with her.
Mr. Redlich. The second item appearing here is a contract with Life magazine. Would you tell the Commission about that?
Mr. Martin. Life magazine purchased the rights, North American rights on a photograph of Lee Harvey Oswald with a rifle and pistol, primarily for their use on a cover issue.
Mr. Dulles. That is what appeared on the recent cover issue, I guess, it was 2 weeks ago.
Mr. Martin. Yes, sir.
Now, that $5,000 has been paid. We have the $5,000 in an escrow account.
Mr. Redlich. Did you actually have in your possession the photograph, a copy of which appeared on the cover of Life magazine?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Could you tell us how this contract was consummated, in view of the fact that Life magazine apparently printed on its cover a photograph which you never possessed?
Mr. Martin. They knew the photographs belonged to Marina. They have a common law copyright, and the only way they could legally use the film is to purchase the rights from Marina.
Mr. Redlich. Did Life magazine indicate to you where they obtained the photograph?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Have you had conversations with other publications concerning that photograph?
Mr. Martin. Yes. I made the contact with the London Daily Mirror for the purchase of the British Commonwealth rights on that same photograph, and they guaranteed $2,200 plus 50–50 split on what they sold in the Commonwealth. It was restricted to the Commonwealth only.
However, the London Daily Mail came out with the photograph prior to the Mirror, and I was informed by Mr. Weggand of the London Daily Express that the Detroit Free Press had sold this photograph to the London Daily Mail for $500.
Mr. Redlich. Do you have any idea how the Detroit Free Press obtained this photograph?
Mr. Martin. No. I talked to Ken Murray, who I was informed was the attorney for the Detroit Free Press.
Mr. Redlich. Where did you talk to him?
Mr. Martin. At his home in Detroit.
Mr. Redlich. By phone?
Mr. Martin. By telephone. And he stated that the photograph was public property, and not covered under common law copyright. I asked him where he got the photo, and he said he got it at the same place as Life did, through a leak in the Commission. I talked to Life magazine attorney—I can't remember his name. It is a very odd name. It begins with an "S". Now, Murray said that Life had informed him that they had gotten it from a leak through the Commission, and I contacted Life and he denied saying anything of the sort to Murray.
However, Murray insisted that that is where he got that and he figured it was public domain.
Mr. Redlich. At the start of today's testimony when you mentioned the possibility of a leak with regard to this photograph, something that you said prior to the actual start of hearings, Mr. Rankin and I commented on that assertion.
Would you tell the Commission what we said?
Mr. Martin. That there was definitely not a leak in the Commission, and that you would certainly find out what Murray was talking about.
Mr. Redlich. Did you talk to an editor of the Detroit Free Press with regard to this photograph?
Mr. Martin. I called at night. It was at night, and I asked for the news editor. He was not in, so I talked to a reporter, and he couldn't say anything about it. He referred me to Ken Murray and gave me his home telephone number.
Mr. Redlich. The next item on Commission Exhibit No. 325 has reference to Stern Magazine.
Would you tell the Commission about that, please?
Mr. Martin. Stern Magazine we have been working with since the middle of December. They have been quite patient actually. For $12,500 they wanted Marina's memoirs and photographs, available photographs for use in Germany and Italy only. They wanted exclusive use in those two countries. Then they would endeavor to sell these same memoirs and pictures to other European countries, limiting it only to European countries, and take a 30 percent commission on any sales that they made, the remaining 70 percent going to Marina.