Senator Cooper. I would like to follow up on that. In this conversation with her, did he give any reason to Marina Oswald why he wanted to kill Nixon?
Mr. Martin. Evidently not. She didn't answer. She didn't answer me when I asked.
Mr. Redlich. Mr. Martin, you have said in your opinion the Nixon incident was after the Walker incident.
Mr. Martin. Well, that is what she said.
Mr. Redlich. Did she relate it to the General Walker incident in any way when she discussed the Nixon incident with you?
Mr. Martin. She just said it was after General Walker.
Mr. Redlich. Did she relate to you any conversation that she may have had with Lee Harvey Oswald relating the Nixon incident to the Walker incident?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Did she refer to any promise that he may have made at the time of the Walker incident that may have related to the Nixon incident?
Mr. Martin. No. I remember her saying after the Walker incident she told him that if he ever did anything of that nature again that she would report him to the police.
Mr. Dulles. How did you know the Nixon incident was after or supposed to be after the Walker incident? Did she say that?
Mr. Martin. She said it was.
Mr. Dulles. She said that?
Mr. Martin. Yes; I asked when it happened and she said after Walker.
Mr. Redlich. When she told you that she had threatened Lee Oswald with going to the police if there were another incident, did you ever ask her why she had not done so in light of the Nixon incident which subsequently followed?
Mr. Martin. I must not have because I think I would have remembered it if I had.
Mr. Redlich. Did you ever consider reporting the Nixon incident to any Federal authorities?
Mr. Martin. If it didn't come out in the hearing, yes.
Mr. Redlich. When Mrs. Oswald was preparing to come to Washington with you for the hearings before this Commission, did you discuss the Nixon incident with her?
Mr. Martin. I don't think so. I know I told her to be sure to tell the truth to the Commission. She had mentioned that she had lied to the FBI.
Mr. Redlich. With regard to what?
Mr. Martin. On a Mexico trip. She told the FBI she didn't know he had gone there or that he was going.
Mr. Redlich. To the best of your knowledge had she ever related the Nixon incident to the FBI or Secret Service prior to her trip to Washington?
Mr. Martin. I don't know. I was never in on any of the questions.
Mr. Redlich. Did you give her any advice in connection with any of those interviews?
Mr. Martin. No. I told her if she got tired to tell them so that they could come back the next day.
Mr. Redlich. You say when she was planning to come here you advised her to tell the truth?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Redlich. Did you give her similar advice in connection with the FBI and Secret Service interviews?
Mr. Martin. I don't think the situation ever arose. She asked specifically about the Mexico incident.
Mr. Redlich. Throughout the many interviews with the FBI and Secret Service you never asked her, I take it, whether she had discussed the Nixon incident with the FBI or the Secret Service?
Mr. Martin. I think I may have asked her when she told me, if she had told the FBI.
Mr. Redlich. What did she say?
Mr. Martin. She said no.
Mr. Redlich. What did you say?
Mr. Martin. I don't recall if I said anything.
Representative Ford. Mr. Redlich. I wonder if we couldn't have Mr. Martin tell us the time of day and the circumstances that this conversation with Marina in the presence of your wife arose, not necessarily the date but the time of day, and the overall——
Mr. Martin. It was in the evening.
Representative Ford. You were sitting around the room?
Mr. Martin. Yes, in the den.
Representative Ford. Just the three of you?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Representative Ford. Did she just start talking or did you prompt her or just how did the situation arise?
Mr. Martin. I don't recall. I think maybe—I think it just came into conversation as we were talking about the whole thing in general.
Mr. Dulles. Were you talking at that time about what her memoirs or any writings she might——
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Dulles. —she might produce would include?
Mr. Martin. No.
Representative Ford. What was your wife's reaction to this story?
Mr. Martin. Well, she couldn't believe it either.
Representative Ford. Did she ask any questions about it such as the ones you have indicated?
Mr. Martin. No, other than the ones I asked.
Mr. Redlich. Could you tell us with whom you have discussed the Nixon incident other than those that you have mentioned thus far, I believe thus far you have said Mrs. Martin and Mr. Thorne.
Is there anyone else you have told this to?
Mr. Martin. Don Levine.
Mr. Redlich. Who?
Mr. Martin. Levine.
Mr. Redlich. Who is he?
Mr. Martin. A writer.
Mr. Redlich. For what publication.
Mr. Martin. He is an author.
Mr. Dulles. Freelance writer and author, Isaac Don Levine for the record.
Mr. Redlich. When did you relate this incident to him?
Mr. Martin. Back in January.
Mr. Redlich. Could you tell us why you told him?
Mr. Martin. He is of the opinion that there is more to this than meets the eye, so to speak. He is——
Mr. Dulles. More to what?
Mr. Martin. More to the assassination.
Mr. Dulles. The Nixon story?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Dulles. The whole assassination, Kennedy assassination?
Mr. Martin. And he—of course, he is quite familiar with Russian affairs, and he said the stories just don't match, and he was trying to tie in Oswald, I guess, with the Communist Party or some attachment there some place, and I mentioned that I thought he was just a nut.
Mr. Redlich. That who was.
Mr. Martin. Oswald. And I said, I told him I didn't know how true it was but then I related the story, and he—I cautioned him not to pass it around or anything like that, which he said he wouldn't.
Mr. Redlich. Were you or Marina Oswald compensated in any way for the release of this information to Mr. Levine?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Dulles. Was Mr. Levine at this time trying to get the rights to the story or the right to write the story?
Mr. Martin. He wants to write the story, and through Meredith Press.
Mr. Redlich. Were you negotiating with Mr. Levine at the time