Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Rankin. What did you say about that?
Mr. Martin. Well, I told him I would be happy to get one for her.
Mr. Rankin. Did you do that?
Mr. Martin. Yes. John Thorne.
Mr. Rankin. How did you happen to select John Thorne?
Mr. Martin. I had known him from association at the Inn.
Mr. Rankin. Had he ever acted as your attorney?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Rankin. What was the nature of your acquaintance with him?
Mr. Martin. Just a passing acquaintance.
Mr. Rankin. Did you discuss with Marina the qualifications of this attorney?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Rankin. Did you say anything about it to Mr. Gopadze?
Mr. Martin. I, like I probably mentioned, John had handled some movie work and he would probably know something about the area in which we were talking.
Mr. Rankin. After you had made the suggestion of Mr. Thorne as a lawyer did you do anything about it?
Mr. Martin. I called Mr. Thorne.
Mr. Rankin. On the telephone?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. And then what happened?
Mr. Martin. He came over, I believe, the next day and talked to Marina and Lee Gopadze and myself.
Mr. Rankin. How did he talk to Marina?
Mr. Martin. Well, through Lee Gopadze.
Mr. Rankin. As an interpreter?
Mr. Martin. As an interpreter.
Mr. Rankin. Mr. Gopadze is fluent in both Russian and English?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. Could you tell what Mr. Gopadze said to Marina?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Rankin. Did you discuss the nature of this retainer with Mr. Thorne at that time?
Mr. Martin. I don't understand the question.
Mr. Rankin. Did you discuss what he would be doing if he was employed as her lawyer?
Mr. Martin. Handling all her legal work.
Mr. Rankin. Did you tell him that?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. And did you say anything about what the legal work would involve, the kind of work it would be?
Mr. Martin. I don't believe so at the time. I may have mentioned something about her story or something like that. I don't recall the conversation.
Mr. Rankin. Was anything said about the donations at that time?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Rankin. Did you discuss what he would be paid by way of compensation?
Mr. Martin. Not at that time. It was later.
Mr. Rankin. Was anything said by you or Mr. Thorne about his qualifications to act as her attorney?
Mr. Martin. Not that I recall.
Mr. Rankin. Were formal arrangements made about the employment of Mr. Thorne as counsel for Marina?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. When was that done?
Mr. Martin. I believe that was December 6.
Mr. Rankin. Do you recall anything else that was said or done at this conversation when Mr. Thorne came over and talked to Marina through the interpreter and you were present?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Rankin. Was there a formal contract executed between Marina and Mr. Thorne at some time?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. You think that was December 6 to your recollection.
Mr. Martin. Either the 5th or the 6th.
Mr. Rankin. Now, before that contract was executed did you discuss it with Mr. Thorne?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. Was Marina present when you did?
Mr. Martin. I don't believe so.
Mr. Rankin. Where did this discussion occur?
Mr. Martin. I believe it was at the Inn.
Mr. Rankin. Your office?
Mr. Martin. No, in the coffee shoppe.
Mr. Rankin. Who else was present.
Mr. Martin. No one.
Mr. Rankin. Did you then go over the terms of the contract with him?
Mr. Martin. No. I think I left that up to him.
Mr. Rankin. Were you then the manager of Marina's affairs?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Rankin. Who were you acting for in regard to that arrangement?
Mr. Martin. Well, acting for Marina although I had no—I had no contract to that effect.
Mr. Rankin. You were still acting under this suggestion by Mr. Gopadze that some counsel be gotten for her?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. And you did go over the terms of this contract at that time, did you?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. Did you make any suggestions for changes?
Mr. Martin. That we delete it, on my contract, we deleted any gifts or contributions.
Mr. Rankin. That is on the draft of the contract for you to act as manager?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. And when did that idea of your acting as manager come up?
Mr. Martin. Well, I believe it was the same day that John Thorne came out to talk to Marina and to Gopadze.
Mr. Rankin. Do you know who brought it up?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Rankin. Did you suggest that you act as manager?
Mr. Martin. I don't believe I suggested it. We were discussing the need for a manager, and I don't know who brought it up as far as my being the one.
Mr. Rankin. At that time was there any discussion about what compensation you would have?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Rankin. When you were talking to Mr. Thorne in the coffee shoppe was there a discussion about how much compensation he would receive for acting as attorney?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. What was said about that?
Mr. Martin. Well, just that it would be 10 percent.
Mr. Rankin. Had you ever discussed that before with him?
Mr. Martin. Not that I recall.
(At this point, Senator Cooper entered the hearing room.)
Mr. Dulles. Senator, we welcome you.
Senator Cooper. Thank you.
Mr. Dulles. Would you proceed? Would you just resume for a moment where we are in the proceedings?
Mr. Rankin. We are discussing the contract between Mr. Martin and Marina and also how Mr. Thorne became counsel under the contracts that were made.
Senator