Mr. Jenner. And that is an additional factor affecting your opinion as to the stability of your mother?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner. Which leads you to the view that she, since this tragic event, she is not as stable as she was prior thereto?
Mr. Oswald. That is correct.
Mr. Jenner. Now——
Mr. Oswald. And I might add, sir—I don't believe I stated this. I, of course, did not request that the agents be removed from my mother's residence.
Mr. Jenner. All right, sir.
You have testified to ownership of rifles.
Mr. Oswald. That is correct.
Mr. Jenner. And do you still own a rifle?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I do.
Mr. Jenner. Did you own and possess a rifle—I will withdraw that.
Did you ever take a rifle to the Irving Sports Shop in Irving, Tex.?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I did not.
Mr. Jenner. Have you ever been in the Irving Sports Shop in Irving, Tex.?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I have not.
Mr. Jenner. Did anybody ever take any firearm owned by you or possessed by you and take it to the Irving Sports Shop in Irving, Tex.?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; they have not.
Mr. Jenner. May I inquire of you, Mr. McKenzie—I have a question here dealing with the nature of Marina's contract—if there is still one between Robert, Marina, and Thorne.
Do we have that contract?
Mr. McKenzie. Yes, it is in evidence and has been given an exhibit number.
And I might also state that I have just left Mr. Rankin's office where I was contacted by long distance telephone from my office in Dallas, Tex., and had a letter read to me over the telephone that Mr. Thorne has sent to Marina Oswald at the home of Mr. Declan P. Ford, in Dallas. Tex., to the effect that he has had and received a letter from me, but regardless of my letter to him, that she cannot unilaterally cancel his contract, and that his contract is one that is coupled with an interest and that it would be to her best interest to immediately contact him directly in order that certain probate papers may be filed in connection with the death of Lee Harvey Oswald, to establish her community interest under the laws of the State of Texas in the estate of Lee Harvey Oswald; and, further that there was some $7,000 being held for Marina Oswald in Fort Worth, Tex., subject to the payment of $100 by Marina N. Oswald, and that likewise there were other business contracts needed to be affirmed or discussed with Marina Oswald by Mr. Thorne.
I might add in that connection that I have instructed my office to have Marina Oswald bring the letter to my office this afternoon or this evening, have a photostatic copy made of Mr. Thorne's letter, and I further instructed my office to contact Mr. Thorne by mail, certified mail, return receipt requested, and requesting in such letter to have Mr. Thorne contact me directly relative to the representation of Marina Oswald.
And I have directed a copy of that letter to be sent to the Grievance Committee of the Dallas Bar Association.
Mr. Jenner. I take it there at least was, and there is a dispute about it at the moment, as to whether it is still legally effective, an agreement between, or a contract between Marina on the one hand and Robert Martin and Thorne on the other.
Mr. McKenzie. Yes, Mr. Jenner. And all of those agreements are in the record, and have been produced.
And I might also say that Marina Oswald had placed both Messrs. Thorne and Martin on notice that she has discharged them as her attorney and business agent, respectively, and, further, that I have likewise notified them since Mrs. Oswald has turned the matter over to me.
And, further, for the purpose of the record, I will state that Mrs. Oswald has paid me the sum of $25, which is not my usual fee, to represent her as a retainer.
Mr. Jenner. And you do represent her?
Mr. McKenzie. And I do represent her, and do not desire one dime out of any contributions that she may have received by anyone for the benefit of herself or her children, nor would I accept same.
Mr. Jenner. Do you have a written contract with her?
Mr. McKenzie. I have no written contract with her.
Mr. Jenner. Do you know whether Marina knows or can use or understand any language other than Russian, and other than English, to the extent that she is able to use and understand it?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I do not. I do know that she knows a little French.
Mr. Jenner. And that is the extent of your information on the subject?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner. How do you know that she knows a little French?
Mr. Oswald. During her recent stay at my home in Denton, Tex.——
Mr. Jenner. How recent was that? Just a few days ago?
Mr. Oswald. Within the past 10 days to two weeks—I believe this was brought about, to the best of my recollection, due to a television commercial with a little French involved. I gave my total French vocabulary of parlez vouz Français, or something, and she replied to that. And we asked her did she speak French, and she said four or five other words, and she said that was about all of it.
Mr. Jenner. Did your brother ever speak to you or raise the subject of his jealousy or possible jealousy concerning Marina and any other man or men?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir, he did not.
Mr. Jenner. And did any discussion of that subject or possible subject ever take place in your presence by anybody?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; it did not.
Mr. Jenner. Do you know any of the following members of the Russian emigré group? I will omit those you have already identified.
George Bouhe?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I do not.
Mr. Jenner. Have you ever heard of that name?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I have not.
Mr. Jenner. Teofil Meller?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I do not.
Mr. Jenner. Have you ever heard the name before?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I have not.
Mr. Jenner. Elena Hall?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir, I do not.
Mr. Jenner. Have you ever heard the name before?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir, I have not.
Mr. Jenner. Mrs. Frank H. Ray?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir, I have.
Mr. Jenner. Have you heard that name or know of it during the lifetime of your brother Lee?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I did not.
Mr. Jenner. You became acquainted with that name, with that person, subsequent to his death?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; that is correct.
Mr. Jenner. Are you acquainted with her?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir, I am.
Mr. Jenner. What were the circumstances, and when?
Mr. Oswald. On February 19, 1964, I went to Mr. and Mrs. Declan Ford's home from Denton, Tex., on my way to Washington, D.C.,