Is there another question, please?
John Hill: Can I ask a question? A little while ago you mentioned reincarnation. Well, if we have reincarnated several times from a distant past to where we are today, we must be higher up the ladder from where we started, presumably. And, if it is so, if we are in a kind of trouble before we arrive on this Earth and if all the people we meet at that point [are too] surely we must be having to meet people because of lessons we have not learned. So, all this going forward can only be done if you have met people that add to those problems, which have met you on the way back. If you cannot advance further on this ladder without having problems – I hear you talking about how to get rid of your problems – but if it is a logical progression from a long time ago to where we are today, and if it is a structural ladder surely we need the knocks, we need the experiences from all these people? And someone might come for about two minutes to say, ‘Good morning’ and you feel wonderful but it doesn’t mean to say you have spend twelve weeks with them or anything. Everyone who is a partner – you are spending some time with someone and you are actually spending a lifetime but somebody you meet on the bus you are spending half an hour with and so for that person to get to meet you, if you get a lesson from that meeting and if it is a bad lesson you have to meet it so someone is helping you – is it an intricate way of going up the ladder that is leading towards a spiritual solution?
Joseph: Gosh, that’s a busy question!
[Audience laughter]
There is a spiritual ladder but for a number of people they keep revolving around the same rung, and we have to bring into the answer to your question, the question of free will. If you do not as a soul – and remember only part of your consciousness is on the surface, as it were – if you do not as a soul wish to leave this plane, I cannot make you leave, God cannot make you leave, the people who are part of your spiritual family on that side cannot make you leave because you are exercising your free will.
The only way that you can eventually decide to stop spinning around that rung and take a step up is through God speaking to you (as I mentioned before) via the things, as you rightly say, that happen to you in life. And the things that happen to you in life, if you consider your life, are a series of letting-goes, of saying: ‘I have had that experience – I don’t need it. I have touched the fire – I don’t want to do that again. I have sat for a thousand years on a rock contemplating mankind – I don’t need to do that again.’ ...until eventually, through your own volition and no one else’s (because God has given you ultimate free will), you decide that you have had enough of the physical existence and want to explore elsewhere.
Of course there are good spirits (there are no other kinds of spirit), of course the people that you meet on the bus or at work or wherever you meet them... of course they are good spirits. It is only a degree: you have a good spirit or a positive spirit or an evolving spirit and you have a spirit that is also evolving that is mired in the stickiness of the Field – we talk about ‘good’ and ‘evil’ in the book [reference to Revelation] and about how those are misnomers.
But your reincarnations do not have to be nose-to-tail; they do not have to be this helter-skelter of coming back …and coming back …and coming back …and coming back because [smiling], like everything else in your world, there is some queuing involved. And so you do return to a very pleasant place and are allowed to live in that place and are allowed to look at your options, but ultimately there are still many spirits who feel that they have unfinished business on Earth and that unfinished business needs to be taken care of in one lifetime or in a dozen lifetimes. And so given the option (I know this sounds strange to you on a physical level) of moving on or returning to address what they see – not what God sees, not what the advisors who sit around them and try to help them see – what they see as being imperative in the growth of their soul, they come back mistakenly to repeat what has happened before or to terminate, as they see it, unfinished business by bringing it, as they see it, to a conclusion.
There is no ‘unfinished’ business – there is only experience and the results and consequences of that experience ...but [smiling] as they say, you try telling that to the kids these days! People want to come back until they don’t and so, yes, the experience is there to teach you and, yes, it is beneficial but it is a long-cut. It is a painful way round when the quick journey, when the short-cut is to go within and experience the truths within and apply those truths to your life because they transform your life. And you look at things that before were so important to you and say, ‘They don’t matter anymore.’ Or you look at them and say, ‘I was tied to this situation, now I choose not to be.’
So, yes, of course mankind is evolving but not quickly enough! The Earth is finite on a physical level; the Earth is tied into the Field and the two are in a worrying state at the moment, so we are trying to bring Light into individual consciousness to light up their existence so that they know from the heart, from within, why they are here, how long they should be here and where they want to go to next. And we are trying to bring Light to the globe too, to disperse the Field as it is and to return this world to the Utopia it once was.
Have I answered that very complex question?
John: Yes, thank you.
Joseph: Thank you. God bless!
OK. [Pause] Three more questions, please!
Gale Sagar: I have a question. When Michael started talking [reference to his introduction] he said that you had worked with him a long time in other lives – have you done this kind of work with him before in another life, and when Michael’s life ends on this Earth plane what will you do then?
Joseph: I will be joyous and also very sorry in equal measure. We have touched the group soul that Michael is a part of before, but ‘before’ is a relative term because time does not unfold itself quite for us as it does for you. And there has been preparation for people like Michael and groups of people who are working through this world now for a long time, because there first has to be the volition to return on behalf of the spirit – in this case Michael – who seeks to bring through the information. Remember what we have just been talking about – there comes a time when the spirit wants to move on and says, ‘Oh, gosh, do I really have to go back?’ And so there has to be a preparation process; there has to be a cutting-off process where the speaker does not have access to the layers of his (in this case) soul that would make this journey something that he would not undertake. Had he full knowledge of who he was on a soul level he would seek to step aside from this work and not go through his own personal evolution as a soul – because you have to remember that Michael is also evolving as a soul and Michael has trials and tribulations to go through.
But the answer to your question is I have known him for a long time. He cannot remember that – he believes that I made contact with him around five years ago but that is not the case. I made physical contact with him then, with his physical mind and physical body, but I have been in contact with him since his moment of incarnation. It had to be so. The other guides that work with him are also connected to him in this way.
I have my separate existence. I have my life which is rich and full and I enjoy it, and there are times when I need to retreat but I am always linked to Michael so that communication can take place when it is asked for. Mine is not the function of a guide who will speak to him through his intuition to help him through those creaky, difficult moments of his life. My function is to bring through communication. I am aware to a lesser or a greater degree, depending on how close to Michael’s sphere of influence I am at any given time, as to what is happening in his life but I am not allowed to interfere with anything that is happening in his life. Certain of his guides are allowed to advise him through his intuition (as your guides advise you through your intuition) but I am not allowed to do that (which is upsetting to me at times) because my sole function is purely to act as a communicator.
Is that a suitable response?
Gale: