Labels at any level of life are dangerous. Labels cut off the ability to think outside of the box, to expand thought and to let concepts in that do not agree with the concepts you have by attaching yourself to a particular label. I would always in any group say: ‘As your measure of what that group is doing, does that group enhance mankind? Does that group enhance its members? Is that group loving? Is that group patient? Is that group peaceful? Does that group love those who are not in the group or does that group become fearful when there are those around who do not believe what the group believe?’
There is truth, and Light, and creativity, and the ability to access God within each of us and at the basis of many religions and organisations there is truth, and Light, and the ability to contact and work with God. But then we see in macrocosm what happens outside. We see that people become polluted by the very rules that perhaps once were meaningful and perhaps once were helpful …and the group becomes solidified as a consciousness and then it cannot move on and is useless to the cause of furthering the evolution of mankind.
My only concern with any group is – is that group capable of furthering the spiritual evolution of mankind?
And these are difficult questions, particularly for those who are attached to such groups. If you are worried by that association, you must put Light into the group. You must put Light into those members of the group that you are associated with. You must pray that the God within them talks to them – and sooner rather than later the God-within shall talk to them by bringing to them circumstances that will make them think, that will check them in their step and allow them to look at things with spiritual eyes. I do not wish to condemn religion – I wish to condemn that part of religion that imprisons people and that part of religion that stifles the soul.
Do you see?
Phil: Yes, good answer – thanks!
Joseph: Someone else, please!
[Long pause]
Someone else, please!
John O’Brien: Joseph, I would like you to speak about the ‘no-thing’ that you wrote about in your book [reference to Revelation], about the field of energy that has no substance but can be shaped into substance and bring about form, as part of God’s Creation and a gift to us to use.
Joseph [laughing]: Yes! Yes is the answer to that. Yes, yes, yes – that is exactly right!
Minute by minute, second by second, we are bringing things out of the no-thing now. Each of you is bringing things out of the no-thing and I, on my level, am bringing things out of the no-thing. But you see it as normal; you see it as a physical thing; you see it as circumstances that you are at the mercy of ...when in fact you, individually and creatively, are contributing to those circumstances and are creating those circumstances from the no-thing.
It is refreshing at times to go back to the no-thing and live within that potential, to say: ‘I will be back soon (and I am talking about my level and other levels). I need to go and contemplate my potential, other potentials, your potential, and to exist without form as energy (which itself is only a term for nothing – no-thing) and to contemplate and to be delighted in what could be, what might be, what will be – dependent on what I choose, what those around me choose, what the group souls choose and what God chooses through us as His will.’
The no-thing is a wonderful, peaceful experience and it would be of benefit to each of you in here to visit the no-thing in your imaginations ...to sit in God’s Love and in God’s Light and to slowly erase all of the things around you in your everyday lives until you are left just with you – not as a physical body – but you as a consciousness and you in the Light.
What a glorious thing to do!
What a restorative thing to do because – as you address the no-thing, as you rub out the physical concepts around you – you can rub out the illness; you can rub out the worry; you can rub out the animosity you feel for someone (and really know you shouldn’t); you can rub out yesterday; you can rub out the effects of yesterday on today just for a little while and you can exist in the no-thing, and commune with yourself and with your God.
I would recommend that exercise for a few moments, for a few minutes or for as long as you feel comfortable with it each day, and in doing that you reset the clock, you reset the stopwatch. And when you come out of the no-thing you are starting again with opportunities that you have brought to yourself by being in that contemplative state: ‘The illness belongs to before the no-thing; the pain belongs to before the no-thing – they are gone. There is only what I choose to bring though now and when I am tired and when I am weary I can go into the no-thing with my God and simply be.’
Just simply be!
You have so much to do – so much to do every day of your lives that you do not seem to have the time to be. When you simply be God speaks to you. If you say, ‘God speaks to me,’ on this level, you will be locked up …but God speaks to you constantly, communes with you and you are able to access that speech (either at a refined level through going into the no-thing or at a denser level through the things that happen around you) but God is constantly speaking. And the no-thing – that no-state – is the best way to commune with Him and also to ask that all important question ...not, ‘How do I get rid of the pain?’ ...not, ‘Where is the new job or the new car?’ ...not, ‘Where is someone to love?’ ...but that all important question, ‘What would You like me to do?’
Isn’t that a turn round in praying? ‘What would You like me to do? Is there anything I can do for You, Father? Is there anything I can say on Your behalf? Is there anyone You want me to visit? Is there anything I can do to help the people around me? What do You want me to do?’
And sometimes God will say something, and sometimes God will say nothing, and sometimes God will simply say, ‘I love you’ and you will come out of the no-thing refreshed and able to take up the mantel of the physical life once again.
Thank you. Another question, please!
Female member of the audience: Joseph, in the book you tell us about us manifesting stuff all the time but never un-manifesting, and so we just grow layer, after layer, after layer and get denser and denser. And, if I remember rightly, you recommend that we should spend time just letting go of things that we have manifested – is that what you were talking about just then or is it something else?
Joseph: It is an aspect of what we were talking about then. You begin to add layers to your physical existence from the moment you are born:
‘Ouch that slap was upsetting – I will remember that in case it happens again; I will carry around a record of it with me in case it happens again.’
‘Why does that person not like me in the playground? I will remember that and I will act accordingly in case I get hurt in the future by what I am carrying around with me from the past.’
As you add to your experiences – remember that you are in a negatively-charged Field that adds to the intensity of those experiences that makes them seem real to you years after they have actually happened because that is what the Field wants. The Field wants to remain as it is and anything that you can contribute to the negativity of the Field helps the Field and slows you down.
As you grow older your ability to exist on this level effectively is determined by the amount of baggage that you carry around with you within the physical Field. There is an exercise that you can do: you can sit and you can meditate and you can go back through the ‘files’ of your life. And you will know when you have hit a point of baggage because it will hurt you, because you will relive it, because you will say: ‘How could that person have done this to me? How could that person have acted in that way? How could I have been hurt? How could I have been so afraid? How can I have been in so much pain?’ And you will relive it.
At that point let it go.
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