Mr. Redlich. By training you mean what?
Mr. Martin. Pharmacy. He said they spent quite a bit of money on her training, and he doesn't understand how she got out of Russia on such short notice.
Mr. Redlich. Did you ever ask this question of Marina Oswald?
Mr. Martin. She said that Lee arranged it, and that is all she would say.
Mr. Redlich. She never discussed any other aspect of her departure from the Soviet Union?
Mr. Martin. No. Let's see, they were in Moscow, she waited a couple of days while he was, how did she put it, collecting money or getting money together to come over to the States. I have forgotten the name of the hotel they stayed in. She even remarked they had pancakes every morning and she didn't like pancakes.
Mr. Redlich. In terms of her official negotiations to leave the Soviet Union, you asked her nothing other than the question that I have already discussed with you?
Mr. Martin. No, she said that Lee arranged everything.
Mr. Redlich. I would like to ask you a few questions now about some of the individuals that Marina and Lee Harvey Oswald knew in Fort Worth and Dallas, and ask you in each case whether Marina Oswald discussed any of these individuals with you.
The first is George Bouhe.
Mr. Martin. I know the name but I don't think Marina has ever mentioned him; Katya Ford has though.
Mr. Redlich. Are you personally acquainted with George Bouhe?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Could you tell us what Katya Ford has told you about Mr. Bouhe?
Mr. Martin. It was relating to Marina—I think Katya Ford and Bouhe are friends, and they had been discussing Marina all the time she was in seclusion, and wondering what had happened to her, where she was. Now this was after the news was out where she was.
Mr. Redlich. Are you acquainted with——
Mr. Dulles. Excuse me, by "in seclusion", you mean at the time she was with you in your house?
Mr. Martin. Yes, and the press didn't know where she was.
Mr. Dulles. I see.
Mr. Redlich. Are you acquainted with George De Mohrenschildt or his wife Jean De Mohrenschildt?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Have you ever discussed either George or Jean De Mohrenschildt with Marina Oswald?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Have you ever discussed George and Jean De Mohrenschildt with anyone else?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Dulles. Did you ever hear the name mentioned before?
Mr. Martin. No. I think I would remember that name.
Mr. Redlich. Are you personally acquainted with Peter Gregory?
Mr. Martin. I met him once, maybe twice, at the Inn. He was interpreting for Marina, for the Secret Service, I believe, before Lee Gopadze got there.
Mr. Redlich. Do you know who he is?
Mr. Martin. I understand he is a geologist, and he also teaches Russian.
Mr. Redlich. Did Marina ever discuss either Peter Gregory or Paul Gregory with you?
Mr. Martin. She mentioned—I don't know which one.
Mr. Redlich. One is the father and one is a son.
Mr. Martin. I think it is the older gentleman that I met. She mentioned that she liked him.
Mr. Redlich. The older gentleman?
Mr. Martin. Yes. And I think she corresponded with him. I know she corresponded with him.
Mr. Redlich. Do you have any knowledge of Mr. Gregory's son?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Have you ever met him?
Mr. Martin. Not to my knowledge.
Mr. Redlich. You have had no conversations with anyone else about him?
Mr. Martin. No. We were—I think John Thorne and I were talking about at sometime we may need an interpreter, and I mentioned his name in that instance.
Mr. Redlich. That would be the elder Mr. Gregory?
Mr. Martin. Yes. But nothing on Paul Gregory.
Mr. Redlich. Nothing on Paul Gregory?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Are you aware of the fact that Paul Gregory is a student at the University of Oklahoma?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Did Marina ever discuss with you the fact that she had helped tutor the son of Peter Gregory?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Are you familiar with—strike that. Do you have any personal acquaintanceship with Gary Taylor?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Have you ever heard the name of Gary Taylor?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Marina Oswald has never discussed that name with you?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Do you know Mrs. Elena Hall?
Mr. Martin. Elena Hall? No.
Mr. Redlich. Has Marina ever discussed her with you?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. The name John R. Hall, who is the husband of Mrs. Elena Hall?
Mr. Martin. No, it sounded a little familiar but I can't place anything on it.
Mr. Redlich. Do you know Mrs. Katherine Ford?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Redlich. Could you tell us how you came to know her?
Mr. Martin. Let's see, she had contacted Marina a couple of times by letter, and——
Representative Ford. While she was staying at your home?
Mr. Martin. Yes—well, she sent the letter to Grand Prairie, the letters, Christmas cards, and I think two letters after that. So I called her and Marina wanted to, expressed a desire to, talk to her. So I called her and Marina talked to her on the phone. I think every time she talked to her she talked nearly an hour.
Representative Ford. In Russian or in English?
Mr. Martin. In Russian.
Mr. Dulles. Was it on the telephone?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Redlich. Did Marina ever tell you the gist of these conversations?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Did Marina ever relate to you whether she had ever lived in Mrs. Ford's home?
Mr. Martin. I believe she had for a very short time.
Mr. Redlich. You mean Marina related this to you?
Mr. Martin. I think Mrs. Ford told me that.
Mr. Redlich. How did you get this knowledge, from Marina or from Mrs. Ford? Did you ever discuss this with Marina?
Mr. Martin. No. I know Marina likes her home, I mean likes the house that they live in.
Mr. Redlich. Did you ever ask Marina how it came about that she was separated from her husband and living at the home of Mrs. Ford?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Did any of Marina's other Russian-speaking friends in the Dallas-Fort Worth area write letters