Mr. Oswald. I do not know of any discussion or any difficulty that was mentioned to me, but I understand there was some difficulty.
Mr. Jenner. Please, Mr. Oswald—the subject was not discussed with you during the 10-day period you were on leave?
Mr. Oswald. That's correct, sir.
Mr. Jenner. Was it discussed with you at any time prior to November 22, 1963?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; it was not.
Mr. Jenner. Was there any discussion on the subject of your brother's progress in schooling in New York City?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; there was not.
Mr. Jenner. Was the subject of his attendance at school, whether the attendance was good or bad—was school discussed at all, as you recall?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; not to my recollection.
Mr. Jenner. And as a layman, and acquainted with your brother, what was your impression? Give us your present impression of your brother's state of mind during that 10-day period. Was he normal and happy and friendly?
Mr. Oswald. He was very normal. He did not appear to be unhappy. He was quite happy to see me. We spent a good deal of time together during that 10-day visit. At no time did he act abnormally.
Mr. Jenner. Did he complain to you about school?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; he did not.
Mr. Jenner. In general did he complain about anything—any special gripes?
Mr. Oswald. None that I recall, sir.
Mr. Jenner. Do you recall that as being a happy 10-day visit on your 10-day leave in New York City?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner. Both you and your brother?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; that's correct.
Mr. Jenner. Did you spend time with your mother as well as your brother Lee during the 10-day period?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I did.
Mr. Jenner. That would be when—the evenings and on Sunday?
Mr. Oswald. Generally in the evenings. That is the way I recall it.
Mr. Jenner. You and your brother Lee and your mother—did you do any visiting during the evening, movies, any entertainment, go out?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; Lee and I did. Mother did not join us.
Mr. Jenner. What was your impression of your mother's state of mind and well-being and her general feeling while you were there during that 10-day period?
Mr. Oswald. May I have that again, please?
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Mr. Oswald. My impression of my mother at that time was that she was still having a little difficulty making enough money to have the things that she wanted to have, I should say. But generally her health was good, and nothing that I recall comes to mind that would indicate that there was any difficulty between her and Lee. They seemed to be getting along quite well.
Mr. Jenner. Your impression during the 10-day period, I take it then, was that the relationship between your mother and Lee was friendly, was it?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; that's correct.
Mr. Jenner. Were there any arguments during the time you were there between them?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; there were.
Mr. Jenner. Did he at any time during that period—was he discourteous to his mother?
Mr. Oswald. If I may in my own words here, sir——
Mr. Jenner. Yes, sir.
Mr. Oswald. The word "discourteous"—my mother did not wish us to go to certain places—I say certain places—I do not recall the places. She just did not want us going, inasmuch as we were going during the day. I wanted to see as much of New York as I could while I was there. And I recall that Lee and mother and I had something of an argument in reference to staying away from the house during the day so long, and so forth. And it was not her wish that we do that. And if this was being discourteous—that is why I qualify that.
Mr. Jenner. Nothing extraordinary.
Mr. Oswald. No, sir.
Mr. Jenner. Now, your leave terminated. You went back to Florida, and you eventually wound up in Korea.
Mr. Oswald. That's correct, sir.
Mr. Dulles. Could I ask a question before we leave the New York period?
While you were there, was there any discussion about these absences from school which I think took place just the months before you were there—although I am not absolutely clear on that. It seems to me as I understand it your mother and Lee arrived in the Bronx area around September of '52, I think it was, and this was in the summer of '53 that you visited them there, is that correct?
Mr. Oswald. That's correct, sir.
Mr. Dulles. So that according to what I recall—and this may not be accurate—what is referred to as the truancy, the 46 days absence from school, had occurred some time prior to your visit. Maybe you do not recall that. That did not come up at all?
Mr. Oswald. No; it did not come up at all.
Mr. Dulles. Did anything come up about a psychiatric examination?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; it did not.
Representative Ford. There was no mention of the farm?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir.
Mr. Dulles. So the psychiatric examination was not mentioned in your presence?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir.
Mr. Jenner. It had taken place I think in May of 1953.
Mr. Oswald. If I may, sir—mother did mention that Lee had appeared before a judge, and she said it was a Negro judge. I asked why, and she said because he had been absent from school too long, no specific dates or length of time was mentioned, and that they were stricter in New York about that than in Texas.
Representative Ford. Did this bother her, disturb her? Did she indicate the reaction to that?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir—at that time I do not recall any reaction that she had, or any comment she made about it. She just very briefly stated that he had appeared before this Negro judge in New York City, and just what I previously related about it. That was the only thing she said about it.
Representative Ford. She did not mention a man named Carro?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; nobody's name was mentioned, not even the judge's name.
Mr. Jenner. To the best of your present recollection, that is about all that occurred in the way of conversation respecting some possible truancy?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner. That is all you now can recall.
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; that's correct.
Mr. Jenner. You were mustered out of the Marines in July of 1955.
Mr. Oswald. That's correct, sir.
Mr. Jenner. Did you return—well, when you were mustered out, where did you go?
Mr. Oswald. Fort Worth, Tex.
Mr. Jenner. And where were your mother and brother living at that time?
Mr. Oswald. In New Orleans, La.
Mr. Jenner. Were you still single?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner. Would you explain why you went to Fort Worth, Tex., rather than to New Orleans?
Mr. Oswald. I considered Fort Worth, Tex., my home. I wanted to go there. I