Joseph: It is never intellectual – not in the sense that the earthly mind means. It is never intellectual because when viewing something and saying it is intellectual you are viewing it from the point of the Field, and the Field seeks to rationalise everything within its own small viewpoint. Michael has been told – and I will add to that this evening – that we do not know everything about God. The discovery and the wonder is part of Creation; discovering more about Divinity and about the Divine plan is part of Creation as though, in a very real sense, God unfolds His wonders little by little to make the journey back to Him ever more interesting. To define God in words is impossible but I will give some angles that you might find interesting.
In this room, outside of yourselves, seemingly, there is no lack of God. No lack of God! There is nothing in this room outside of yourself that is not God. ‘Yes,’ you would say: ‘Well, the other people in this room are part of God, I’ll accept that, but what about the chairs, and the carpet, and the walls, and the windows, and the roof, and the lights?’ ...All God. All God! All part of God-energy, God-creative energy – albeit manipulated by you as individualisations of God.
And yet that individualisation is also an illusion. You only perceive yourselves as individuals in order to experience this realm, and the realm is skewed so your perception of the realm is also skewed. This is where your scientists, for the most part, amuse me when they say: ‘It does not fit within my world-view.’ Your world-view... How small! How boxed in, how blinkered, how blind! The world-view is the view of the Field.
To experience something of God, you need again to go within – outside the Field, away from the Field – to contact the God-within and to feel that eternal connection that can never be severed, to feel that flow of Love and energy that is yours by inheritance and to feel that everything is alright, everything is as it should be – it simply requires adjusting on this level.
God talks to you daily. People clasp their hands together and kneel down and say, ‘Talk to me, Father! Talk to me, Father!’ ...and then, ‘You still haven’t spoken to me, Father!’ God has to penetrate this Field in order to talk to you. If you will not talk to him from within, then He has to talk to you from without – He has to manipulate the Field. So, the chance conversation that you have that solves a problem is not by chance, the challenges that you find yourselves in are not by chance because they teach you something and bring you closer to God-consciousness. God will talk to you from the television set; God will talk to you in the garden through the plants; God will talk to you as the neighbour next door who says something profound; God will talk to you as the book that you find unexpectedly in a book shop that answers your questions; God will talk to you by that sudden flash of inspiration you get when you understand one aspect of this world as you have never understood it before.
God constantly talks to you. If you would learn of God, forget the intellect. Allow the experience of God to flow into you, connect with God on a daily basis and start to talk to God. Start to say, ‘Father, this is upsetting to me’ ...or ‘This I don’t understand’ ...or ‘I would like illumination on this, please’ ...or ‘I am seeking You.’ And then be patient – don’t allow the Field to say, ‘This is not happening!’ ...because it is and it does all the time. We have to look beyond the physical reality.
We – as we evolve through spheres of creative ability and spheres of creation (they are the same thing) – become more God-like. We gravitate towards each other. We are still individuals but we are linked in a way that also applies now but you cannot feel. And our ability to create increases so that we influence directly the ‘spheres’ (for want of a better word) in which we live. We create by believing, by imagining and if you are looking for the mechanism of God you can see it in the way that we operate. You can see it in the way that you operate on a soul-level ...those feelings of compassion that you have, those insights that you can pass onto people that change their lives. That is God speaking to you and through you, and that is – in the tiniest amount – a view of how God is.
There is a lot spoken about hierarchy and how many levels. Are there seven levels ...or seventy-seven levels ...or seven hundred and seventy-seven levels?
How many levels, Ladies and Gentlemen, do you have within yourself? How many levels of mood, for example? How many levels of sensation?
And for me there is no barrier or edge between one level of existence and another other than the vibrational capability of the soul trying to enter that level versus the vibrational resonance of that level itself. In other words, a soul cannot enter a certain level until it vibrates at a similar vibrational resonance. I do not see hard edges, I do not see ladders and then a floor ...and then we are on level three ...and then we are on level four.
The people who work with you and with me are not all at the same point of evolution spiritually. Michael has seen people who appear to him as Light (you all appear to me as Light – I am seeing you as Light now) but there are people who are so used to emanating as Light that they appear as Light itself and not as human. There are levels; there are experiences beyond that. Wipe out the word ‘level’ and substitute the word ‘experience’ and we then get back to the original point of Creation here – which was to allow souls to experience a set of experiences to know themselves through a certain physical realm. God’s possibilities for evolving souls are endless ...endless ...and endless ...and endless. As far as we are aware – because we haven’t reached there yet – the ability to experience is infinite. Infinite! And that is part of God’s mind that He wants His children – and therefore Himself – to experience infinitely and to experience universes from within His children and universes that His children create around themselves. Have I given you some insight?
Gordon: Yes, thank you. I realise that resonating at a certain level of wisdom and creativity is the key to being able to progress higher.
Joseph: Those are the only barriers. There are no ‘locked doors’ except within the heart of the souls who are trying to open those doors to get into those spheres. And they are instructed, they are educated once they have reached the spiritual realms – but this is also a spiritual realm – once they have reached the non-corporeal realms, they are shown how they can obtain that level of harmony and how they can increase their vibration so they can inhabit those spheres. But then, once they inhabit a certain sphere, there is another sphere beckoning, because God is always pulling, through infinite experience, His children homewards.
And for none of us is there the experience of putting our feet up and saying: ‘I want to stay in this house or in this realm forever.’ Change is an aspect of God because it brings experience that enriches our souls. And on Earth you dig your heels in and say: ‘I will not change! I hate change. Change is not for me – it frightens me, it terrifies me, it angers me.’ And yet change is experience and change will come to you. If you dig your heels in for a lifetime ...at the end of that lifetime a change comes to you doesn’t it?
Welcome change and see it as God talking to you, an expression of God saying: ‘Here is something else to experience. Here is a means of growing. Here is a means of reaching those spheres that you want to live in on a soul level. Remember, because of the effects of the Field, you are parted from your soul memory. It was not always so but your soul, your subconscious, your spirit knows what it wants and indeed cries out to God for what it wants, and God rewards it by the experience of change to allow that soul to elevate itself into different spheres of experience.
I am beginning to tire Michael’s body [smiling] but that has never stopped me before. Yes, please, another question!
Susan Leach: Could I ask a question, Joseph, please – it’s Susan. When our body dies and our soul passes on to the other side, are there other souls that come to greet us and welcome us?
Joseph: No soul is ever alone – ever! Were you to see your Lights, as I can see them this evening, you would see that there are people standing around you. Some of those people have been relatives in previous lives, some of those people have been relatives in this life, but you also have guides who love you and see